November 23, 2009

Kel-Tec To Unveil PMR-30 22 WMR Handgun

COCOA, Fla. -- Kel-Tec has announced the newest gun to their lineup, the PMR-30 pistol chambered in .22WMR. The PMR-30 is a double-stack semiautomatic pistol that has a 30-round magazine.

The PMR-30 is chambered for the .22 Magnum cartridge (.22WMR). The PMR-30 operates on a hybrid blowback/locked-breech system. This operation system allows for the use of a variety of ammunition as it adjusts between locked breach and blowback operation, depending on the pressure of the cartridge.

It uses a double-stack magazine that holds 30 rounds and fits completely in the grip of the pistol. The trigger is single action with an over-travel stop. The manual safety is a thumb-activated ambidextrous safety lever (up for SAFE, down for FIRE). The slide locks back after the last shot and a manual slide lock lever is also provided.

Slide and barrel are 4140 steel, frame is 7075 aluminum. Grip, slide cover, trigger, mag release, and safety levers are glass reinforced Nylon (Zytel), much like other Kel-Tec Pistols. Magazine is Also Zytel and holds 30 rounds, with round count ports.

Other features include: dual opposing extractors, heel magazine release, dovetailed aluminum front sight, Picatinny accessory rail under the barrel, Urethane recoil buffer, captive coaxial recoil springs. The barrel is fluted for light weight and effective heat dissipation. PMR30 disassembles for cleaning by removal of a single pin.

Expected Availability: Quarter 2, 2010
Expected MSRP: $415
Caliber: .22 Magnum (.22WMR)
Barrel length: 4.3”
Length: 7.9”
Height: 5.8”
Grip Width: 1.1”
Max width, across safety levers: 1.3”
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds
Trigger pull: 3.5 to 5 lbs
Weight (no mag): 13.6 oz.
Muzzle Velocity (40 gr): 1230 fps

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Comments (22)

Wow. You guys are REALLY getting Spammed! Any chance you can fix it??

Posted by: Huggy | August 14, 2012 7:01 AM    Report this comment

I have three of these guns on order (dealer) from different wholesalers and they can't seem to get even one. Does anyone know if there is an exclusive dealership with the PMR-30?

Posted by: ljones | April 6, 2011 4:45 PM    Report this comment

yes, been waiting for the pmr to come out,i ordered 1 way back when from my local gun shop ,will this ever take place.eagle1

Posted by: EAGLE 1 | January 10, 2011 7:49 PM    Report this comment

yes, been waiting for the pmr to come out,i ordered 1 way back when from my local gun shop ,will this ever take place.eagle1

Posted by: EAGLE 1 | January 10, 2011 6:23 PM    Report this comment

gee guys 30 rounds mags , 22 mag. ..what happen to the old west, make the first bullet count...or are you thinking of one billion people charging you. ...what about apistol that use a belt???? you know 250 rounds belts,,might even sell it in california as a single shot all this talk.

Posted by: williamnewton | December 17, 2010 1:09 PM    Report this comment

gee guys 30 rounds mags , 22 mag. ..what happen to the old west, make the first bullet count...or are you thinking of one billion people charging you. ...what about apistol that use a belt???? you know 250 rounds belts,,might even sell it in california as a single shot all this talk.

Posted by: williamnewton | December 17, 2010 1:09 PM    Report this comment

My AMT .22mag automag NEVER EVER failed to extract. Not once!

Posted by: pitdogg | November 27, 2009 1:29 PM    Report this comment

Every semi-automatic 22mag made in the past including the Ruger 10/22M, AMT 22M and the P30 Grendel had an extractor problem which caused frequent jams and caused the manufacture to discontinue the gun. Rugar even tried double extractors which did not extract every time the empty 22M. What has Kel-Tec done or not to fix this problem ???

Posted by: Old Timer | November 27, 2009 1:18 PM    Report this comment

Huggy, We have 26 in stock right now ( I am not trying to use this forum as a sales floor but you did ask.


Posted by: atbear | November 26, 2009 6:25 PM    Report this comment

30round mag ??? I once had a AMT .22mag auto-mag pistol it held 10 rounds by the time you got to the 9th and 10th round the brass on the 22 mag cartridge would sometimes bend making it un-usable. I would be interested to know how the mag loads ??? Is it a double stack that funnels up to one round or is it more like say an AR mag... All i know is i bent a lot of rounds with that AMT auto-mag single stack mag.
It does sound like a fun gun to shoot.

Posted by: pitdogg | November 26, 2009 5:45 PM    Report this comment

atbear, you mention that you have quite a few of the 5.7's in stock. Are you a dealer, and if so, where are you located, website, etc.? I am quite interested in this platform, especially now with my hand issue. As a former LEO myself, overpenetration has always been a concern of mine, both on the job and off, so this information is important. I currently live alone on several acres between properties, so penetration, while not without merit, isn't a major concern for me at this time. Thanks in advance for any help.

Posted by: Huggy | November 26, 2009 4:23 PM    Report this comment

Huggy and Others who responded to my comments. We actually have quite a few of the 5.7n's in stock. On the other comment about the 5.7 going through 10 houses or more is incorrect. I am a Law Enforcement Instructor & Rangemaster. Per the comments by the gentleman about the penetration factor of the 5.7 was a concern of ours also so we actually did quite a bit of testing. The 5.7 actually penetrated 3 sheetrocked 2x4 walls and then started to yah coming out of the 3rd wall. As the round exited the 4th wall it began to break apart. When it did hit the 5th wall it basiclly was reduced to small pieces of shrapnel. None of the shrapnel exited the 5th wall. Now I understand that a round going through five walls is of grave concern but we also tested 9mm,.40 S&W,.45 acp,.357 sig and they all went completely through 6 sheetrocked 2x4 walls without breaking apart at all. My point being using the 5.7n is actually no more dangerous than normal pistol rounds. In actuality we prefer no rounds going through any walls but that is quite unrealistic. All comments are appreciated and taken with serious consideration. I am only hoping to educate some who might have more questions.

Posted by: atbear | November 26, 2009 4:17 PM    Report this comment

Can anyone tell me which issue The FN pistol is featured in? I scanned the archives but cannot find it. TIA

Posted by: Huggy | November 26, 2009 3:53 PM    Report this comment

Howdy, Stephen. Thanks for the recommendation. I failed to mention that the one pistol I saw at the range kept a smile on the shooters face. He let me shoot a few rounds and I noted that they seemed to have a laser beam trajectory...extremely flat. There have been articles written where hollow point or soft point ammo is produced for the civilian market but I haven't seen either the gun or ammo at any of the gun stores I frequent in the Tucson, AZ area. I'd be curious to see if any testing has been done on media to simulate target response before committing to carrying one for self defense. It would be better round than the .22 WMR I sometimes carry in my S&W Airweight revolver with better ballistics and power factor. Of course, if my hand finally heals properly I can return to carrying my G27 or any of the other full-power pistols in my possession. Thanks for the information.

Posted by: Huggy | November 26, 2009 3:45 PM    Report this comment

Huggy, I've seen these retail for about $800-$900 here in VA, used ones running over $700. They're not cheap! But ammo costs have come down to the mid $20's for a box of 50, depending on where you get it. Problem is, you can shoot through that box of 50 in no time, grinning with every shot. It's said you can concealed carry this gun, but for most folks it's just a bit too big. It's very accurate, easy recoil, and takes most accessories with no problem. The light grey controls on the black polymer looks a little strange, but that's cosmetics. I find all the controls are easy to reach for me. I WOULD NOT recommend this gun for home defense for one reason only - if you miss, that round will not stop in your house - try more like 2-3 houses away. Of course, if you don't miss, Mr. Bad Guy will not be happy. If you intend to mainly target shoot, or can carry this weapon for CCW, it's a really good choice, in my opinion. If you are fortunate enough to have a range in your area where you can rent one to try, I recommend it. That's what I did, and my 14-year old daughter pestered the heck out of me to get one after she tried it as well. But, if you are going to do so, do it soon - notice the anti-FN 5.7 article elsewhere on the site. Whether this happens or not, the demand for this weapon will go up, as will costs, ammo prices, etc, just from the press.

Posted by: Stephen A | November 26, 2009 3:37 PM    Report this comment

atbear, I agree with your comments about how long it is (likely) to take to get this pistol to stocking dealers. Consequently I have actually considered buying one of the FNH 5.7 guns but haven't seen them at all in our area (southern AZ) except once at public range. I have little to no knowledge about them and guess I should consider one myself. Do you have any idea what the cost of the pistol is and how much/many is in a box of ammo? Thanks.

Posted by: Huggy | November 26, 2009 2:10 PM    Report this comment

This gun sounds great. There is only one problem with Keltec. I am an FFL dealer and Keltec can't even keep up with manufacturing the product line they have now. I was at the 2008 Shot Show when they unveiled the RFB .308, it has yet to be seen anywhere on a retail shelf two years later. Have you tried to find a PLR16 or a P3AT lately. Well good luck. All their guns are allocated to distributors so get on the waiting list. They say expect it in the 2nd quarter of 2010. That means we might see it on the retail shelf in 2020. Better hurry now and get your name on the 10 year waiting list. Oh! wait a minute you might just be better off going to your local gun store and buying a FNH 5.7 which is available now and looks almost identical to this long awaited PMR-30. "Keltec" maybe you should try getting your production up on the guns you have already introduced before you come out with a new model that we might actually see in 10 years.

Posted by: atbear | November 26, 2009 2:06 PM    Report this comment

This is one I think I would like to see make the Calif list of can buy, but would prob have to have 10 round Mag. It sure looks like one I have been looking for. More Info Please?

Posted by: bear1 | November 26, 2009 12:55 PM    Report this comment

Does anyone have any information on the expected release time-frame of this pistol or anticipated MSRP? I'm very interested in learning more.

Posted by: Huggy | November 26, 2009 12:30 PM    Report this comment

It appears to be a remake of the Grendel P-30. I always wanted one, but they were discontinued before I had the chance. I look forward to picking up the PMR-30 when it hits the market; should make an excellent plinking and small game gun!

Posted by: Unknown | November 26, 2009 12:27 PM    Report this comment

Having read this short article, I am very interested in acquiring one of this pistols. While not inexpensive in the ammo-cost area, the advantage of having such a large quantity of ammunition available in a relatively soft-recoiling pistol could be a serious advantage in any social encounter. Having limited use of my right thumb after surgery, I may have to find other options to a carry gun (other than my G27 Glock) in order to ensure first round hits on any advesary attacking me. This may just fit the ticket in my case. Tell me more!

Posted by: Huggy | November 26, 2009 11:56 AM    Report this comment

This looks like it could be a "HIT", can't knock the .22WMR. It is a proven round.

Posted by: spacedust | November 26, 2009 6:50 AM    Report this comment

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