February 2019

Why Hide Your Sources?

todd woodard

One of the more important claims in the gun-control debate is that the United States has more mass public shootings than any other countries. I’m sure you’ve heard that reported on gun-ignorant major media outlets. But as John R. Lott, Jr., president of the Crime Prevention Research Center points out in a new video, conventional TV wisdom on this topic is likely misinformed — but we can’t find out for sure.

Lott says, “A paper on mass public shootings by Adam Lankford (2016) has received massive national and international media attention, getting coverage in the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, plus hundreds of other news outlets spanning at least 35 different countries. Lankford’s claim was that over the 47 years from 1966 to 2012, an enormous amount of the world’s mass public shootings — 31% — occurred in the United States. Lankford attributed this to America’s gun ownership.”

Lott goes on to explain that Lankford claims to have “complete” data on such shooters in 171 countries. “However, because he has neither identified the cases nor their location nor even a complete description on how he put the cases together, it is impossible to replicate his findings,” Lott said.

It is particularly important that Lankford share his data because of the extreme difficulty in finding mass-shooting cases in remote parts of the world going back to 1966. Lack of media coverage could easily lead to under-counting of foreign mass shootings, which would falsely lead to the conclusion that the U.S. has such a large share, Lott points out.

Adam Lankford is a criminology professor at The University of Alabama. This reminds me of the claims by Michael A. Bellesiles, then a history professor at Emory University in Atlanta, who claimed that there were few guns and gun owners in early America. He, too, initially refused to allow others to corroborate his findings, and his book Arming America was later proved to be fraudulent.

Given the massive U.S. and international media attention Lankford’s work has received, and given the considerable impact his research has had on the debate, his unwillingness to provide even the most basic information to other researchers raises real concerns about Lankford’s motives, in my estimation.

You can view John Lott’s video on John Stossel’s YouTube channel.

Comments (13)

Two comments, but only one of which I can quote the source. Sorry about that.
1. Willie Nelson was quoted as saying: "if I ever meet who "they" is, I'm gonna knock him on his ***".
2. This one came off the Internet, so it must be true: "drunk drivers kill people. To fix that we must take cars away from sober people. That's how gun control works". A good analogy.


Posted by: 2guns | August 29, 2019 9:53 PM    Report this comment

Mr Lopez is incorrect.. here is a CORRECT citation of the 2A..

The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Posted by: Fatboy46 | August 29, 2019 4:44 PM    Report this comment

seems as though we need some kind of registry for hammers screw drivers knives baseball bats especially those named Louise and every other kind of pointy hard object or maybe carpenters and mechanics or anyone the uses such should pass background check before they can purchase these items since they are used in violent crimes far more than firearms.

Posted by: floyd turbo | August 29, 2019 12:46 PM    Report this comment

Well by golly, I believe R. Lopez has discovered a ratified copy of the Bill of Rights that absolutely NO ONE, and I mean no one, has ever seen before! I suggest you quit your day job, fly to Christie's and put that puppy up for auction because you are about to become rich beyond your wildest dreams! In the interim would you mind taking a pic of it and posting it here for the rest of us uneducated peons to see?

Posted by: Vanns40 | August 29, 2019 12:22 PM    Report this comment

This is an interesting article about an English language analysis of the meaning of the 2nd Amendment (see www.constitution.org/2ll/schol/2amd_grammar.htm). Check it out; it is a good read.

Posted by: DocLuther | August 29, 2019 11:30 AM    Report this comment

An earlier writer posted that:
"...The most important line in the 2nd Amendment is the one rarely ever used, "in the absence of a well armed militia" - Maybe the reason that line is "rarely used" is because it does not exist! The ratified Amendment actually states: A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Posted by: Marine1276 | March 4, 2019 4:50 PM    Report this comment

As I sit here and read all the comments I can see many of the problems with actual meaningful discussion on responsible gun ownership. Before anyone jumps on me let me say that I own many firearms of all types. I am also a law enforcement officer. Every time I hear the 2nd Amendment quoted I have to wonder how many people have really read and understand what the meaning of it is. The most important line in the 2nd Amendment is the one rarely ever used, "in the absence of a well armed militia". I'm not saying that people shouldn't be able to own firearms but I think it's ignorant to believe that there isn't an issue with gun violence in this country. Forget about what the stats say because why should we care if we are first or fiftieth on the list, the goal is to stop as much of it as possible. The only way that is going to happen is if people put their biases aside and reasonably discuss how to achieve this. If you're old enough you know that organizations like the NRA are not anything at all like what they started out as and in fact were more like the people they now say are an enemy to gun rights advocates.Both the general public and gun owners need to look beyond all the hyperbole and work towards a solution that results in reform that is fair and moves to help curb gun violence. Part of that I believe is making everyone from the owners to the manufacturers and everyone in between realize that if we want to keep these rights we need everyone in the chain of ownership to step up and do their part.

Posted by: R. Lopez | March 3, 2019 5:43 PM    Report this comment

Could not verify B.Obamas college records either .Just guessing not AOC's either.If it smells rotten it most likely is.The other side,yes I called them the other side will go to any lengths to disarm us.False data is easy.They have all the time in the world.Polluting the minds of our young in schools and false stories in the media are having their desired effect.

Posted by: Steve A | March 1, 2019 1:16 PM    Report this comment

We are own worst enemies. We name our bullets, cartridges and firearms with crazy aggressive names. We emphasize "killing power" tactical use and other inflamotory phrases al in the name of marketing. The companies don't care. They will reap what profits they can and move on to making widgets when the gun market dries up. Real gun leople don't need hype. Give us the facts and we are smart enough to know what they mean without giving the antis the ammunition to steal our rights. We also support talk-only organizations that need to keeo the problems going to keep their jobs....yes, like the NRA. They need to lead us peacefully into the streets to assert our determination to keep our rights. Are gunowners the only people who have learned nothing from the past 50 years of political action? We can't hide behind the constitution and hope to keep our rights. Most Americans don't know or care about the constitution or anyone's rights except the ones they think they have...like free health care and the right to murder inconvenient babies. If we keep talkingand don't act we will lose our rights in a very short time....like maybe the next time a democrat is president.

Posted by: Thomas W. Farley | March 1, 2019 8:59 AM    Report this comment

Not a very professional approach to reporting. When I wrote investigative reports it was expected that I quote sources directly and cite them appropriately. Anything less was (and is) editorial in nature and should carry that disclaimer.

Posted by: Mark F. | March 1, 2019 8:58 AM    Report this comment

As tragic as "Mass shootings" are, they are a subset of the national murder rate and discussion of mass shootings should not distract us from the bigger picture. Wikipedia quotes a number of sources for its list of national murder rates, and one can draw one's own conclusions. The US rate doesn't seem to be particularly high at 5.35 per 100,000. The Americas are listed as the region with the highest average murder rate at 16.3 per 100,000, with places like like El Salvador at 82.84 and Honduras at 56.52. It's interesting that the folks who are trying to escape violence in those countries are lining up at our border to come to the US. By the way, Wikipedia has a listing of worldwide gun control laws, and one can draw one's own conclusion about how effective such laws are. Wikipedia information is a starting point for a discussion - it's not definitive or verified or original source information. See the wiki listing for "List of countries by intentional homicide rate" and "Overview of gun laws by nation."

Posted by: James D | February 18, 2019 3:28 PM    Report this comment

One I like best when asked by me is "Well they said!"
Another one I get often, "Well I read that" . . . .
When asked again who, what and where . . . . I get the old stand by, "I can't recall exactly."

Mostly when I ask for a source it ends the conversation.

Posted by: NorCalChuck | February 7, 2019 2:08 PM    Report this comment

Mr. Woodard,

I have just read the Downrange posting in the February 2019 issue of Gun Tests.

This is a good article exposing the heart of the anti-gun agenda in the US: There is no consciousness in the anti-2d Amendment/anti-gun camp when bending facts, skewing facts, and outright lying to avoid presenting facts, leads to justifying their agenda.

There needs to be a follow up article that is put in the prospective of the 2d Amendment of the US Constitution.

That would be an article that revels the number of people that have been murdered by governments between 1966 and 2012, discounting war zones.

Those numbers would paint a picture that justifies the 2d Amendment and deny any anti-2d Amendment/anti-gun advocate a platform.

But then, perhaps it would be asking too much for everyone to view the historical facts that accompany a disarmed society.

Charles E. Clift

Posted by: Charlie Clift | January 26, 2019 4:16 PM    Report this comment

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